Alternativa3D 5.0 (Milestone 1)

18.04.2008 Anton Volkov

First of all we would like to say that some silence in blog was connected with very hard work, part of which is our beloved 3D-engine at its 5th version. Now we can tell that new architecture was worth working on it. With a great pleasure we created these two small demos for you, to show engine abilities.

Bunker Temple

Alternativa3D tech specs:

  • Signals system — only nesessary calculations;
  • BSP — quality polygon sorting, “sharp” crossings;
  • n-gons support;
  • reusing layers (only changed regions redrawing, polygons are independent);
  • objects hierarchy;
  • only necessary matrix, coords and UVs recalculating;
  • perspective correction — dynamic triangulation;
  • collision detection.

Isometric mode was also optimized and now works much faster.

Factory

And this is not all. In a future we’ll create and implement some new features::

Besides that, Alternativa3D engine is already adapted for coming Flash Player 10. Texture correction and lighting will work faster.

This technology applications are rather wide::

  • 3D online first- and third person games;
  • architecture visualisation;
  • multyuser entertainment media;
  • promo-sites;
  • advertising (including “3D-banners”);
  • science фand educational interactive projects.

We hope that you share our passion. It is spring outside, everything grows and develops, so we are.

102 Responses to “Alternativa3D 5.0 (Milestone 1)”

  1. Mr.doob Says:

    Just amazing! Well done, keep it up!

    You say that it can be used on 3D banner, how much does the engine takes? I mean, how many bytes?

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  3. robotz Says:

    Absolutely stunning! Do you intend to release this at all? (even commercially it would be worth it!)

  4. Ralph Hauwert Says:

    Incredible work and an awesome display of your engine! Seriously impressed ! What’s your plans with the engine ?

  5. ryan Says:

    Wow! You pulled off great FPS and isometric capabilities. This really is becoming quite a platform. Details on usage would be good to have. Depending on how good the isometric side runs scaling, it could be easily an RTS platform.

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  8. Niels Says:

    Damn this is really incredible. it runs o fast and smooth

  9. Maikel Sibbald Says:

    AWESOME!!!!!! When will be the release? The world is watching…… an waiting….:)

  10. makc Says:

    I just would like to know, what does “Besides that, Alternativa3D engine is already adapted for coming Flash Player 10. Texture correction and lighting will work faster” really stand for?

  11. D Says:

    This is absolute bliss.

  12. Jaap Kooiker Says:

    Unbelievable! I’m waiting for a release…..:)

  13. Ids Klijnsma Says:

    WOW! Now thats what I call a flash 3d engine!

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  15. Fabrice Closier Says:

    Very impressive work guys! Keep up the great work!

  16. Radoslav Minchev Says:

    gr8 work!

  17. Theun de Bruijn Says:

    Incredible.

    The performance is nothing short of stunning, and the well crafted demo’s are a huge bonus.

    Keep it up guys, you’ll reach the stars :D

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  19. erik van nieuwburg Says:

    Very cool work dudes, impressed, great performance too ^^

  20. Dark Vyper Says:

    Never have I been more impressed than with these demos! This is amazingly brilliant! I absolutely cannot wait to be able to play with whatever programs/games are created with this platform.

    Keep up the good work. You should accept donations - I’m sure many would be glad to help.

  21. Peyote Says:

    This is a truly amazing piece of work, I am very impressed with the overall quality of the demos.
    What does “milestone 1″ mean, what are the other milestones and when will we get to see something :)
    And when are planning on releasing a first commercial version ?

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  24. Skampler Says:

    Woow! What a hell of fps!! This is just and incredible powerful 3D engine. My deepest congratulations! :) I just can’t get enough of that stuff o.O’

  25. kikko Says:

    unbelievable!

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  27. mx. Says:

    You guys are really rock stars !

  28. jwopitz Says:

    Amazing. The Doom-like demo is awesome.

    I really see an isometric game on the way. I am curious about the optimization and how it could be customized for rendering only the necessary faces for a game w/ one viewing angle (e.g. Diablo, older Sim City games). Is this something easily achieved? Basically I’d like to render the polygons in the top, front left and front right since they are the only visible planes of a 3D object (aside from any transparent objects).

    Thanks for creating these demos. Truly awesome.
    jwopitz

  29. D Says:

    I cannot not leave another comment … the performance is SCARY.

  30. blunt Says:

    I hate you.
    I love you.
    I can’t decide. It’s all so confusing.

    This is just my roundabout way of saying: this is amazing. Congratulations. Now get some sleep so you can get on with milestone 2.

  31. Mem's Says:

    I repeat like some people: unbelievable, incredible, impressive … !

  32. Evan Mullins Says:

    This is great! Keep it up! Nice performance and graphics balance. Thanks for letting us see the triangles, that impresses me more, to see it working!
    And to see what you have in the queue! Lighting, mapping, physics and interactivity! Prime!

  33. Fardeen Says:

    Incredible performance ! Nice work !

  34. Paul Tondeur Says:

    Alternativa3D 5.0 (Milestone 1)…

    A couple of months ago I accidentally found a demo of a AS 3D engine, called Alternativa. Alternativa is a project founded by the Russian company called “GRTOV Studio”. Basically it is a full AS3 3D engine, with future multiplayer support.
    They desc…

  35. Cedric Says:

    Not bad at all :P

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  38. m Says:

    amazing!!!

  39. Tink Says:

    Great stuff!

    Do you have a plans for a release that others can use?

  40. Ivan Draganovic Says:

    No z-ordering problems, no camera clipping plane trouble, impeccable collision detection, great framerate … Now if you could only say on what terms you could give us access to it … my phuking life would change :P

  41. Luis Says:

    Congratulations!!!! your work is outstanding.
    I can see only success on your future.

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  43. Oz Says:

    I’ve looked at these demos about 4 times already in the past two days. Simply amazing.. good luck!

  44. AlEr Says:

    … ‘ts hard to find words…
    Yeah, guys — You rocks !!!!
    Keep on !

    PS Кста, dynamic lighting and shadows (точечные и направленные источники света), наверно,
    точней (для того, что в скобках) будет так: point and target lights?
    Sorry, if you knew that already :)

  45. chris Says:

    Hey,

    awesome work!!

    So, what are your plans for your release? Will everybody be able to use it?
    What about the source?

    Greez

  46. Rackdoll Says:

    Nice work guys, keep it up..
    I hope you guys will make it opensource :D
    Really need to use this engine :D

    Ill be keep you guys in my sight…
    Go Russians Goooo!
    Wohoe!

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  49. Alexander Karpovich Says:

    Thank you everybody for warm feedback and questions, your comments push us forward :)

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  52. Siemezuim Says:

    Yay! You rock! Revolutionising the web and all that!

  53. unabacus Says:

    Wow.. amazing work.. i new that AS3 was a major improvement on the previous versions.. but this is ridiculous! I have no idea how you manage to achieve your frame rate but i guess it involves quite a lot of complicated maths.. The mad thing is you seem to be able to get a better frame rate in 3D than i can in a damn simple parallax scroller… am rather put out if i’m honest.. lol :)

    I shall be watching this space, you guys are scary… ;)

  54. Ghali Says:

    WICKED!!!!

    that is just stuning!!!! I’m speachless with tears in my eyes… :P

    keep it up guys…

  55. Fubiz Says:

    Excellent work and projects.

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  57. Jan Says:

    Looks pretty amazing and powerful - no, actually ground-breaking!

    Keep up the great work!

  58. mt3o Says:

    Amazing! Astonishing!

  59. Furkan Tunalı Says:

    we started a rts project workin on web with flash.we are only in early concept progress.

    your works is amazing and inspiring us.

    nice jop keep it up.good luck

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  62. Hassan Says:

    amazing engine… pretty CPU intensive though (took almost 1 processor from my dualcore processor)…

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  64. Michiel van der Ros Says:

    Do I see rectangular objects? It’s not only triangles when I press T to see wireframes… Is this part of the engine features or just a glitch in showing the wireframes?

  65. Glen Says:

    Are the shadows “baked into” the textures? Half of what makes this look so damn amazing is the lighting - but then I press “T” I don’t see any polygons for the shadows, leading me to believe that the shading, lighting, etc., is part of the textures, and so your lighting calculations are optimized and kept to a minimum… ?

  66. Flash Designer Says:

    the best flash 3d engine

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  69. Chet Says:

    Unbelievable, you guys do amazing work! (the jealousy is strong)

  70. Alexander Karpovich Says:

    Michiel van der Ros: probably you’re talking about isometric example. Perspective corrected triangulation definitely works with triangles :)

    Glen: yes, shadows are baked in these examples. We’re working hard to bring up real lighting too.

    Thank you people, please stay tuned. More interesting things to come (but it takes a lot of time to really polish them).

  71. Skin Says:

    Keep me posted please guys, this is very impressive.

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  73. Kalais Says:

    WOW, thats amazing. Engine like this gives great oportunities, like games, architectual visulisation, 3d web navigation and more!

    Very good job, keep us updated about work progress :D

    Kind regards,
    Kalais

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  76. Cozmic Says:

    Cool stuff, but in the isometric, is the perspective meant to be inverted? Things get larger as the distance increases, which isn’t really how that whole thing is supposed to work.

  77. Mikhail Fominykh Says:

    Cozmic, it’s just an illusion :)

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  79. Lisandro Says:

    Wow! I thought the same as Cozmic, but after reading the Mikhail post, I analized the strange “inverted perspective” image on photoshop, and it’s just an illusion! :D

  80. Logan0015 Says:

    Amazing ! Great job !

  81. BRETON Thibaut Says:

    Realy amazing. You’re not so far from the Half-Life quality, wich is amazing for the net. The datas streaming seems to be pretty well managed. Please continue to improve it, cause it seems for me to be the best 3D engine for Flash.

  82. choor Says:

    Just awesome 8-)

  83. Volcano Interactive Says:

    Amazing. I tried to do this once and all I could do was a rotating 3D-triangle. And that one lagged like hell. No lag here! A lot more than just a triangle.

  84. Mark Says:

    WOW! that’s amazing. Great work. You’ve done stuff in Flash I’ve always wanted to do. Fantastic 3D!!

  85. 3D Oyunlar Says:

    great 3D models

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  87. pbandin Says:

    dont make it comercial, make it open source but get money out by doing training like papervision does

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  90. oyun Says:

    Cool stuff, but in the isometric, is the perspective meant to be inverted? Things get larger as the distance increases, which isn’t really how that whole thing is supposed to work.

  91. saul Says:

    this is rubbish. Syke (thats joke bro)!

    whens alternativa unreal tournament coming!

  92. çocuk oyunları Says:

    i like these 3D models thanks

  93. barbie oyunları Says:

    i think its wil be okey

  94. Maga Says:

    Hello,
    Incredible !! Very great job ! For your roadmap, would you implement a fisheye mode, I’m working with a little numeric planetarium and I’m using Stellarium and flash in complement but the 3d would be very impressionnant in a dome…

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  97. oyunlar Says:

    Thanks a lot..

  98. youtube Says:

    Very very great job ! Thanks..

  99. scary games to play Says:

    Thanks for providing demos of the new 3D engine, really spectacular. I am anxiously awaiting releases in the future for Flash10 and other modules. Keep up the great work

  100. Anton Volkov Says:

    scary games to play, thanks for your comment.
    You know, this post is one year old :) Since that time we made many interesting things.
    Please have a look: http://blog.alternativaplatform.com/en/category/3d/

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  102. yarisma Says:

    providing demos of the new 3D engine, really spectacular. I am anxiously awaiting releases in the future for Flash10 and other modules. Keep up the great work
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